Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

topic posted Tue, April 1, 2008 - 8:55 AM by  kt
Looking for a vegan supplement for my 3 year old. Wondering if anyone has tried any on kids that they liked.

Here's a link I am considering ordering from:
www.cosmosveganshoppe.com/Merch...nt.mvc

I'm leaning toward the Omega Zen 3 liquid by Nu Tru.
Thanks, Karen
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kt
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  • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

    Tue, April 1, 2008 - 8:56 AM
    I just drink the Silk with omegas added.
    • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

      Tue, April 1, 2008 - 9:31 AM
      I did not know such a thing existed.

      www.silksoymilk.com/Products...ucts.aspx

      I guess it's new, they don't have it at my grocery store yet.
      • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

        Tue, April 1, 2008 - 9:40 AM
        The really wonderful thing is that everything in Silk is 100% vegan.
        • kt
          kt
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          Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

          Tue, April 1, 2008 - 10:32 AM
          I don't think Silk provides enough daily allowance in one serving.

          Silk has per serving : 1600 mg ALA and 32 mg DHA
          recommended daily in-take (woman) 4.g ALA to convert into a daily energy need of omega-3 which is roughly 1.1 g for a woman (for example: 1 tbs of flax seed gives you 4 grams of ALA)

          so with Silk, it's only providing 1.6 grams of ALA vs 4g recommended, and only 32 mg of a fomed omega-3 when you are being asked to produce 1.1g for energy consumption.

          My kid just doesn't eat walnuts and greens and no algae (he's 3), soy doesn't offer enough ALA, I cook with olive oil but he doesn't eat enough sauteed vegetables yet and no salad dressing......... so that's why I would want a supplement to cover the daily required. At least until his diet is more well rounded.

          So anyone have a supplement that they like?
          • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

            Tue, April 1, 2008 - 11:52 AM
            The daily recommended allowances are based on an omnivorous diet, so they aren't necessarily accurate for vegans. Have you tried mixing flax seeds in with his other food? I put them in salads, yogurt, beans, whatever. 90% of the time you can't even tell it's there.

            Sorry I keep dodging your question!! I am just not a big fan of supplements... but if it's the only alternative then do what you gotta do!
            • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

              Tue, April 1, 2008 - 11:56 AM
              I can't tell you how amazing this conversation is to me. I never had a salad until I was in college and after I barfed up a soft boiled egg at the breakfast table no one ever tried to make me eat anything I didn't want to eat. For me a perfect lunch at school was whenever I could manage to trade everything on my tray for deserts. I still remember the feeling of having a tray with six pieces of chocolate cake looking up at me. Pure bliss. I should use that memory for when I need a happy place...
              • kt
                kt
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                Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

                Tue, April 1, 2008 - 12:25 PM
                MdJG- you're funny! I think my son is following your footsteps with his obsession on chocolate! He knows people not by name but whether or not they like chocolate, too funny!

                Matt- I got the info from vegetarian society www.vegsoc.org/info/omega3.html and wikipedia. Are you intimating that daily recs are different for meat eaters vs vegans? please explain.
                • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

                  Tue, April 1, 2008 - 1:27 PM
                  The thing is it's pretty much impossible to achieve the daily recommended allowance for all nutrients while maintaining the recommended calorie intake, which indicates to me that there is a "factor of safety" in all those "required" values.

                  Eg. maybe people need 500 mg of calcium to maintain healthy bones/hair/etc., but let's tell people they need 1000 just to be safe.

                  And yeah the requirements are a function of your overall diet, because some foods act to inhibit the absorption of certain nutrients. It's not necessarily a meat versus vege thing, just in general that foods will combine in different ways. For example, some forms of calcium will inhibit iron absorption.

                  Come to think of it, this is probably why they recommend values that are so much higher than what your body actually needs, because they can't predict how other foods in your diet might be inhibiting the absorption of certain nutrients.

                  Sorry I'm just talking to myself at this point.
    • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

      Tue, April 1, 2008 - 1:05 PM
      Isn't Silk owned by Dean's, though?

      I try to buy the Hemp Milk which has the Omega 3s and 6s. (It's really rich too. I made a cup of coffee for a non-veg friend of mine, using the hemp milk for cream and she loved it).
      • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

        Tue, April 1, 2008 - 1:22 PM
        WhiteWave Foods is a growing subsidiary of Dean Foods
        www.whitewave.com/
        • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

          Tue, April 1, 2008 - 1:30 PM
          From Peta:
          "Show Big Business That Buyers Want Compassion Across the Board
          Invariably, when massive corporations buy smaller, more compassionate companies, the big companies learn from the smaller companies' success that consumers are concerned about things such as animal testing and cruelty to farmed animals. For example, Boca Foods, maker of vegetarian burgers and other vegetarian products, is now owned by hot dog giant Oscar Mayer; ConAgra owns faux-meat maker LightLife; and Dean Foods, the largest dairy products company in the world, owns White Wave, the maker of Silk soy milk and other nondairy products. These conglomerates' purchases of compassionate companies have caused humane products to become more widely promoted and sold than ever before. Mainstream America sees them and hears about them, which enables them to become more popular. Rather than turning our backs on trusted companies that are looking to expand their businesses and make their products available to caring customers everywhere, it is important that we continue to support these companies, which have rejected animal testing from the get-go. "

          www.caringconsumer.com/cosmet...hop.asp
          • kt
            kt
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            Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

            Tue, April 1, 2008 - 5:18 PM
            I think the reaction to Deans owning Silk, and why I get bumbed out, has to do with corporate practices. They are bottom line profit margin (as is most business) which causes some of their practices to fall on the questionable side. It's well documented how some of the corporate dairy farm cheat on their requirements so to maintain the bare minimal standards for Organic qualifications. their ethics are questionable, standards of Organic are in danger of sliding (if not already) because of corporate manipulation or pressures, and I bet soon we will see an end to non GMO soybeans (?)

            Just me and my pessimism here:)
          • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

            Tue, April 1, 2008 - 8:46 PM
            I hear PETA's argument, but it doesn't fly for me. I'd rather give my money to companies that don't farm animals.

            Plus, I fear that if I don't support the smaller companies that are doing a completely vegan business, then it's likely that they will go out of business if they have to compete with major conglomerations like Dean's.

            just my .02

            with love.
            ali
            • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

              Tue, April 1, 2008 - 9:38 PM
              I tend to agree with you Ali (actually I 100% agree with you and like the way you said it)

              the thing to remember about PETA is that the are a one size fits all organization and do tend to try to speak to everyone... and also they don't want to confuse issues.

              That having been said I think supporting locally which PETA sees as another issues is an extension of the vegan ethic.

              So yes the first step is that a product is vegan (regardless of who owns them) the second step is that the product be made by a sustainable (ideally vegan as well business) and lastly that it is local.

              I drink only Natura soy milk here in Toronto, because it is organic and comes from Québec. For those who have nothing else but Silk available to thek in their area though, what PETA is trying to avoid is someone rationalizing the local/ small issue to the point of buying local "organic" cow, sheep or goat's milk instead.
      • Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

        Tue, April 1, 2008 - 2:18 PM
        yeah I was gonna say that hemp should be the best source for omega 3 and 6
        Also the vega powder can be ixed in with food (and in fruit shakes) and contains all the nutrients that a perosn needs.

        I also agree with Matt's suggestion of putting flax seed meal into stuff, just put it on top of pasta, mix it with nutritional yeast and salt and it will be like a parmesan type deal.

        also a good parmesan is parma! which is made with nutritional yeast and walnuts (you could also make your own) and while your little guy may not eat walnuts if they are powdered and added to sauces he won't notice.

        As for supplements, I agree with Matt and am not a big fan of supplementation and think that it is better to get nutrition from food rather than pills. If you must supplement I would suggest liquid supplements over pills, as they assimilate into your body much better.
        • kt
          kt
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          Re: Essential Fatty Acids--Kid Approved!

          Tue, April 1, 2008 - 4:49 PM
          OK,. I thought about the daily recommended doses, and why different diets would cause the dose amount to vary, and the idea of food combining and foods inhibiting other foods (from breaking down, absorbing etc) made total sense to me that you would then have different daily requirements. At first it made it sound like we vegans got omega 3 and essential fatty acids probably pretty easily from our food choices, but that we required less because our bodies like were a storehouse for it so we didn't need so much every day. Talk about over thinking but it's been that kind of day!

          He does eat walnuts and nutritional yeast, so I will have to try that Parmesan trick. I never have used flax seeds, because I don't like the taste of the oil, so maybe I should try grinding???

          Dang, how fine to have to grind it for a kid to digest it? Sounds like potential gas problem?

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